tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699321373090787934.post7100031343139399353..comments2023-10-20T21:57:15.108-04:00Comments on And time yet for a hundred indecisions: A House Divided Cannot Stand Itselfgudnuffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09404362959136843111noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699321373090787934.post-4992224094198465452009-06-23T01:48:15.102-04:002009-06-23T01:48:15.102-04:00My mother is from two Florida families and I grew ...My mother is from two Florida families and I grew up visiting with them a lot. When my baby was very young, I started to bounce her and sing: <br /><br />"Old Jim Crow came riding by;<br />Said, 'Old man your horse will die. <br />If he dies I'll tan his skin.<br />If he lives I'll ride him again.' Whooooah." <br /><br />And just froze. Because it had been sung to me, to my siblings, and I had never really heard the words before - it was just a children's song - innocuous, right? And it was so horrifying to realize that as much as I hadn't thought I was a part of that Southern past, it's there.<br /><br />Anyway, I still sing it, just with "Little Miss Eden came riding by..."Shelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13184176199590874462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699321373090787934.post-62345235011782044262009-06-18T09:02:32.884-04:002009-06-18T09:02:32.884-04:00...oh wow, yeah, well, I haven't quite made th......oh wow, yeah, well, I haven't quite made the transition yet...still rotting in IT with the rest of the nerds...somebody's gotta bring in a paycheck, and at the moment, that somebody is me...gudnuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09404362959136843111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699321373090787934.post-53832469954389333102009-06-18T00:22:36.463-04:002009-06-18T00:22:36.463-04:00It's so interesting to read about the perspect...It's so interesting to read about the perspectives of folks from different parts of the country on things like race relations, which as a fourth-generation Californian (seriously, they came off the boat from the Azores 100 years ago and we're all still here in Sacramento) I just take completely for granted. But it sounds like you at least have a good relationship with her (oh, to have a helpful MIL!!), which is so cool. So many people refuse to even entertain other viewpoints that aren't directly in line with their own. <br /><br />Anyway, thank you for the kind words on my post - and certainly, it sounds like with starting law school with a youngin' that you must know all too well what a challenge it is. Good luck to you and keep your enthusiasm up as you get through it. It will be over before you know it.lawmamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06068507275527809713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699321373090787934.post-12869899950629732682009-06-17T14:53:14.796-04:002009-06-17T14:53:14.796-04:00I just spent an hour writing a follow-up post that...I just spent an hour writing a follow-up post that I've decided not to post. Ha. Anyway, the crux of it was: do we 'see' race because it's human nature to note how someone is different from us, how you are different from me, or do we 'see' race because we are taught to see it by adults around us? I've decided it's the former. But HOW we see it is driven more by the latter.gudnuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09404362959136843111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699321373090787934.post-59326786992756694712009-06-17T12:21:58.401-04:002009-06-17T12:21:58.401-04:00Hyphen Mama - you're welcome to submit somethi...Hyphen Mama - you're welcome to submit something as "Anonymous" (of course, now that I've said that, if there are any Anonymous commenters, people will think it's you, right? Oh well).<br /><br />CatrinkaS - I remember that time! I remember when Q was in pre-school, and couldn't remember names, and only described the other kids based on what they had done or said. It made it hard for me to keep track of who she was talking about and I worked hard to attach names to the other kids (I'd spend as much time at the pre-school as I could manage to steal away from my office, and I would make it a point to pay attention as much as possible, to learn about the other kids, get a tiny little sense of who they were), and to get her to remember the names, but I LOVED, LOVED, LOVED that identifying someone rested solely on their name or their behavior/how they made her feel. I have a few more thoughts about this, and will probably write one more post on the subject. It's on my mind a lot, anyway...I hope people will join in the discussion.gudnuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09404362959136843111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699321373090787934.post-56376020370570591902009-06-16T13:06:46.027-04:002009-06-16T13:06:46.027-04:00On a couple of occasions, my children have had to ...On a couple of occasions, my children have had to describe someone of another race - and race didn't come up. Both times, I was surprised when I met the child.<br /><br />They outgrew it - each time it happened, my child (different ones) was under three. After that, they start to 'see' race. I find that fascinating. It is our job to help them continue to not see it.CatrinkaShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09383407884034887408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699321373090787934.post-35782694272239982242009-06-15T11:33:08.453-04:002009-06-15T11:33:08.453-04:00I, too, have so many things to say, but won't ...I, too, have so many things to say, but won't here. No need to get googled and slammed for something crazy.<br /><br />I do like that your MIL came back with what you added later. THAT was a solid truth and for her to share that was priceless.Hyphen Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10129843526632243730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699321373090787934.post-68159986271745817382009-06-15T11:20:37.763-04:002009-06-15T11:20:37.763-04:00I have so much I'd like to say about race rela...I have so much I'd like to say about race relations, but I'm unsure how to present it or if it'd be a big mistake that would blow up in my face one day...thoughts about how "race" automatically is seen as a bilateral issue, a black/white issue, in some parts of the country, and asian (southern asia, eastern asia, northern asia, western asia), latin (too many places to list!), pacific islanders, carribean islanders, native americans...such designations aren't even on the map, or are the only designations on the map and African Americans are way down there, not discussed much at all. Oh, I have so much to talk about. Like how Song of the South was set just post-the Civil War, which my MIL didn't think made sense, else why were the slaves still going to the fields each day, and Leo and I argued, where else were they gonna go, it was the only home they had, the only skills they'd been allowed to develop...why do you think the southeast's demographic makeup looks the way it looks today? Check out California...you'll see a lot more people of Mexican ancetry, Pacific Island ancestry...do you see that in the southeast? Not so much. There is so much to discuss. I hate that I'm scared to discuss it.gudnuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09404362959136843111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5699321373090787934.post-85109754187351911552009-06-15T02:43:36.737-04:002009-06-15T02:43:36.737-04:00interesting post. We just watched the Hangover wit...interesting post. We just watched the Hangover with my brother and his fiance (who is black). Watching the movie with her made me think about how she viewed the movie. The portrayal of blacks in that movie was horrendous and stereotypical (and of asians as well). It was a hilarious film but I kept wondering how awful is it that I find these stereotypes so funny and that pop culture eats this stuff up? <br /><br />It's just so horrible how we treat others in order to laugh (be entertained) at their expense.CPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09049860284871030328noreply@blogger.com